From ShelborneCountyToday.com
Ready for some new $1 million eBay land sales in Clyde River?... Looks like the success of Carmen and Kevin Blinn in their eBay land sales operation in Port Clyde has caught the eye of one of thier pals. Seems Long Island-based Peter Chiofolo, who is cited in a recent Supreme Court fraud and defamation suit involving the Blinns for supplying questionable, over-the-top, customer-pleasing "feedback" on the Blinn's web site under a couple of eBay aliases, has bought into the Canadian lands sales dream Chiofolo (aka, autopartsweb, etc) just bought 100+ acres of land off hiway 103 near Goose Lake, just a stone's throw from the Blinn's large piece near the non-existant Judas River. If Chiofolo uses the same sales, pricing, and financing plan as the Blinn's, selling small plots sight unseen to folks from far away, he could see a $933,000 profit from his $17,000 investment. Somewhere, PT Barnum is smiling his devilish grin.
Monday, April 30, 2007
Sunday, April 29, 2007
eBay feedback gets revamp
eBay has revamped their feedback system, see below. I guess they ARE aware of problems in eBay Land. Does it go far enough to root out the evil ?
(if you are a eBay member check your e-mail or log on to the site to see the complete notice)
"As you know, eBay's Feedback system is a big part of what makes eBay fun and rewarding for buyers and sellers. We're writing to let you know about some exciting new features coming during the week of April 30--features designed to make Feedback more valuable for buyers and a stronger showcase for your great service record.
Detailed Seller Ratings help you stand out.
In addition to the current positive, negative, or neutral comment, buyers will now be able to rank, on a scale of 1-5, four key aspects of a transaction: accuracy of item description, communication, shipping time, and shipping and handling charges.
After a seller receives 10 of these rankings, the average scores will appear as a series of stars under a new section on the Feedback Profile page titled "Detailed Seller Ratings."
This new feature will provide more transparency to boost shopper confidence--and help your good reputation stand out at a glance.
Also, the item title and price will appear next to each Feedback comment. This will add helpful information for shoppers and encouragement to those in the market for what you sell.
Please take a minute to review all the new features coming soon.
And be sure to check out these tips for building and maintaining your solid Feedback record."
Sincerely,
eBay Trust & Safety Team
(if you are a eBay member check your e-mail or log on to the site to see the complete notice)
"As you know, eBay's Feedback system is a big part of what makes eBay fun and rewarding for buyers and sellers. We're writing to let you know about some exciting new features coming during the week of April 30--features designed to make Feedback more valuable for buyers and a stronger showcase for your great service record.
Detailed Seller Ratings help you stand out.
In addition to the current positive, negative, or neutral comment, buyers will now be able to rank, on a scale of 1-5, four key aspects of a transaction: accuracy of item description, communication, shipping time, and shipping and handling charges.
After a seller receives 10 of these rankings, the average scores will appear as a series of stars under a new section on the Feedback Profile page titled "Detailed Seller Ratings."
This new feature will provide more transparency to boost shopper confidence--and help your good reputation stand out at a glance.
Also, the item title and price will appear next to each Feedback comment. This will add helpful information for shoppers and encouragement to those in the market for what you sell.
Please take a minute to review all the new features coming soon.
And be sure to check out these tips for building and maintaining your solid Feedback record."
Sincerely,
eBay Trust & Safety Team
Saturday, April 28, 2007
Friday, April 20, 2007
Wednesday, April 18, 2007
New Lawsuits filed against Carmen Blinn and Kevin Blinn
New lawsuits have been filed against Carmen Blinn and Kevin Blinn, owner and operators of Nova Scotia Land Sales or Nova Scotia Property Sales. Nova Scotia Land Sales or Nova Scotia Property Sales or nspropertysales operate a eBay land sales site on the popular auction site. As of this writing Nova Scotia Property Sales or nspropertysales is still listing properties on the EBay auction site.
The new lawsuits were filed in Supreme Court of Nova Scotia. Please see ShelburneCountyToday website and follow links to The Bog for updates regarding this matter.
Suits and counter suits have marked the recent history of Nova Scotia Land Sales or Nova Scotia Property Sales and their listings and land sales on the popular eBay auction site. Charges of defamation, slander and misrepresentation have been bandied about. Carmen Blinn has maintained she stands behind her eBay listings and the descriptions included on the auction site and the negetive publicity surrounding her and her company is unfounded.
One thing is for sure, some explaining will need to be done regarding all these claims and it will be done in a public forum. Some people can't wait to hear it all.
What do YOU think?
The new lawsuits were filed in Supreme Court of Nova Scotia. Please see ShelburneCountyToday website and follow links to The Bog for updates regarding this matter.
Suits and counter suits have marked the recent history of Nova Scotia Land Sales or Nova Scotia Property Sales and their listings and land sales on the popular eBay auction site. Charges of defamation, slander and misrepresentation have been bandied about. Carmen Blinn has maintained she stands behind her eBay listings and the descriptions included on the auction site and the negetive publicity surrounding her and her company is unfounded.
One thing is for sure, some explaining will need to be done regarding all these claims and it will be done in a public forum. Some people can't wait to hear it all.
What do YOU think?
Friday, April 13, 2007
Yes, Fraud is a BIG PROBLEM
Canadians Need to Strike Back in Fight Against Fraud -- Fraud: Recognize It. Report It. Stop It.
From www.ic.gc.ca
OTTAWA, March 1, 2007 — Canadians need to be more vigilant in the fight against fraud, senior law enforcement and government officials are warning.
"Sophisticated scams are being invented daily. Whether it's Internet or mail fraud, deceptive telemarketing or identity theft, fraud is a serious problem," said Competition Commissioner Sheridan Scott. "It can steal Canadians' money, their identity and even their self-respect. Law enforcement agencies cannot investigate, press charges and prosecute scamsters unless Canadians help us by reporting these crimes."
The Fraud Prevention Forum encourages consumers during Fraud Prevention Month and throughout the year to recognize the signs, report them to the authorities and stop fraud.
"All of us — individuals, businesses and government — share a responsibility to work harder to stop the explosion of identity theft," said Jennifer Stoddart, Privacy Commissioner. "This costly crime claims thousands of victims each year. The theft of someone's identity may be the ultimate invasion of privacy."
Throughout Fraud Prevention Month, Forum members will participate in a number of activities across the country, including Scam Jams, which are anti-fraud events hosted by Better Business Bureaus, and the Second Annual Fraud Prevention Community Shred, a one-day shredding event in 20 cities across Canada on March 31.
"We know Canadians are very concerned about fraud and how they can protect themselves," said RCMP Assistant Commissioner Raf Souccar. "We also know that education just might be our single strongest weapon against fraud. All citizens have a responsibility to educate themselves. This means taking fraud seriously, and learning to recognize fraudulent activity. It also means reporting instances of fraud to the authorities."
Each year, thousands of Canadians fall victim to fraud, which undermines consumer confidence and drains billions of dollars from the economy.
"The damage from economic crimes may extend far beyond the financial loss incurred by the immediate victim. These crimes undermine the financial health of our entire country. When you learn to spot and report counterfeit money, marketing scams, and other forms of fraud, you do more than protect yourself: you foil criminals and help ensure a safe marketplace for all Canadians," said David Dodge, Governor, Bank of Canada.
The Fraud Prevention Forum, which is chaired by the Competition Bureau, is a concerned group of private sector firms, consumer and volunteer groups, and government and law enforcement agencies committed to fighting fraud aimed at consumers and businesses.
If a scam artist contacts you, or if you've been defrauded, call PhoneBusters, the Canadian Anti-Fraud Call Centre, at 1-888-495-8501.
For a complete list of Fraud Prevention Forum partners or a list of Tips to Protect Yourself from Fraud, please visit http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/fraud.
For more information, please contact:
Competition BureauMaureen McGrath819-953-8982
RCMP Media Relations613-993-2999
Office of the Privacy CommissionerValerie Lawton613-943-5982
Bank of CanadaAnnie Portelance613-782-8782
From www.ic.gc.ca
OTTAWA, March 1, 2007 — Canadians need to be more vigilant in the fight against fraud, senior law enforcement and government officials are warning.
"Sophisticated scams are being invented daily. Whether it's Internet or mail fraud, deceptive telemarketing or identity theft, fraud is a serious problem," said Competition Commissioner Sheridan Scott. "It can steal Canadians' money, their identity and even their self-respect. Law enforcement agencies cannot investigate, press charges and prosecute scamsters unless Canadians help us by reporting these crimes."
The Fraud Prevention Forum encourages consumers during Fraud Prevention Month and throughout the year to recognize the signs, report them to the authorities and stop fraud.
"All of us — individuals, businesses and government — share a responsibility to work harder to stop the explosion of identity theft," said Jennifer Stoddart, Privacy Commissioner. "This costly crime claims thousands of victims each year. The theft of someone's identity may be the ultimate invasion of privacy."
Throughout Fraud Prevention Month, Forum members will participate in a number of activities across the country, including Scam Jams, which are anti-fraud events hosted by Better Business Bureaus, and the Second Annual Fraud Prevention Community Shred, a one-day shredding event in 20 cities across Canada on March 31.
"We know Canadians are very concerned about fraud and how they can protect themselves," said RCMP Assistant Commissioner Raf Souccar. "We also know that education just might be our single strongest weapon against fraud. All citizens have a responsibility to educate themselves. This means taking fraud seriously, and learning to recognize fraudulent activity. It also means reporting instances of fraud to the authorities."
Each year, thousands of Canadians fall victim to fraud, which undermines consumer confidence and drains billions of dollars from the economy.
"The damage from economic crimes may extend far beyond the financial loss incurred by the immediate victim. These crimes undermine the financial health of our entire country. When you learn to spot and report counterfeit money, marketing scams, and other forms of fraud, you do more than protect yourself: you foil criminals and help ensure a safe marketplace for all Canadians," said David Dodge, Governor, Bank of Canada.
The Fraud Prevention Forum, which is chaired by the Competition Bureau, is a concerned group of private sector firms, consumer and volunteer groups, and government and law enforcement agencies committed to fighting fraud aimed at consumers and businesses.
If a scam artist contacts you, or if you've been defrauded, call PhoneBusters, the Canadian Anti-Fraud Call Centre, at 1-888-495-8501.
For a complete list of Fraud Prevention Forum partners or a list of Tips to Protect Yourself from Fraud, please visit http://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/fraud.
For more information, please contact:
Competition BureauMaureen McGrath819-953-8982
RCMP Media Relations613-993-2999
Office of the Privacy CommissionerValerie Lawton613-943-5982
Bank of CanadaAnnie Portelance613-782-8782
Thursday, April 12, 2007
eBay Auction Fraud
This article came from AuctionBytes.com a site very well worth your time if you have an interest in the good, the bad and the ugly of eCommerce and eBay. Of course, there is much, much more on this web site to keep you interested. Take a look.
eBay Auction Fraud Spawns Vigilantism Trend
By Ina Steiner AuctionBytes.com October 12, 2002
Vigilante: One who takes or advocates the taking of law enforcement into one's own hands
A new trend has emerged in online auctions: vigilantism. People are banding together to report auction fraud and are coordinating their efforts in contacting law enforcement officials.
Our story begins with Mark, the high bidder on an auction for a Toshiba Protege 2000 laptop computer on eBay. On August 10, 2002, Mark says he sent a cashier's check for $1,485 to eBay seller Tech-Surplus.
By September 1, after corresponding with the seller several times, Mark became concerned that he would never see his computer. He emailed other winning bidders to see if they had received their items from the seller. According to several buyers, it quickly became apparent that something was wrong ? no one had yet received their computers.
Karen Christian replied to Mark that evening and volunteered to create a Web site to publish information about the seller, whom they worried was operating in bad faith. Karen had also purchased a laptop computer from Tech-Surplus on August 15 and had not yet received it.
Karen, with Mark's encouragement, set up a site on GeoCities and later moved it to http://www.techsurplusvictim.com. The job of Vigilante was full-time for Karen as she built the site. Another victim, Cory, set up a mailing list on Yahoo Groups so victims could keep in touch with each other. The list quickly grew to 83 members.
To date, no one who came forward to the "TechSurplusVictim" group has received their computer from the seller, according to Karen. She and Cory received refund checks from the seller in what they believe was an effort to get them to stop their cyber-pursuit of him. The tactic did not work: Karen continues to spend about 5-6 hours a day keeping the Web site up to date, contacting law-enforcement officials, and talking to reporters.
Karen's TechSurplusVictim Web site gives voice to the indignation auction fraud victims feel and the need to take control back from auction fraudsters:
"We are a group of honest citizens who really wanted the laptops we bought and paid for and had expected to be delivered. Numerous auctions have been unilaterally cancelled. The total amount owed both of these groups is about $300,000. We're interested in stopping this kind of behavior as quickly as possible, recovering our money and informing others of the issues surrounding these transactions."
The TSV Cyber Team, as they call themselves, claim that eBay seller Tech-Surplus received money from at least 130 buyers between July 12 and September 4, 2002, and never sent product. While doing research and gathering evidence for their own case, they found another group of victims calling themselves ElectroDepotSucks. They had purchased laptops from eBay seller Electro Depot and also claimed that they paid for laptops and never received them. The two groups banded together and shared information, leading them to conclude that Tech-Surplus and Electro Depot may actually be one person operating in New York City.
Electro Depot victims had also reached out to one another and created their own Web site, http://www.electrodepotsucks.com. John Rowles said he won an eBay auction for a Sony laptop computer from Electro Depot on May 7, sent a check, and never received his laptop. Rowles said he was eventually promised a refund from the seller in exchange for taking down the ElectroDepotSucks site and leaving him alone. "Please reply to this email and confirm that upon receipt of your refund, you will immediately take down the site (within 24 hours) in question and take no further actions like these." Rowles said he got his refund, but only promised to take down the site if every victim was refunded. The site is still up.
Both Electro Depot and Tech-Surplus have been NARUed ("Not A Registered User) on eBay. This is eBay's designation for an account that has been suspended for any reason. Neither seller replied when contacted via email and telephone by AuctionBytes.
The TSV Cyber Team and ElectroDepotSucks groups are two of a growing number of victim groups trying to work together and with law enforcement officials to recover their funds and bring perpetrators to justice. Each group seems to take on its own character as they struggle to get information about what they should do.
Karen Christian takes a very proactive approach, and one gets the feeling she won't quit until she has seen justice done. Another victim's group took a different approach. "I don't really know that any one person was in charge," said Victor Montanez, who purchased a Bose DVD-based home entertainment system from "shakes955" on eBay in February. "We really all seemed to just email each other with new information. I think that it was really a joint effort by everyone to help each other."
"Shakes955" was the eBay user ID belonging to Neil Bansal, who was arrested on May 13, 2002, and charged with one count of 2nd degree Grand Larceny and one count of 1st degree Scheme to Defraud. Victor Montanez and other victims got refunds from Bansal after his arrest. They continue to keep in touch with each other, eager to hear what will happen to the man who caused them so much grief.
Victims feel a great frustration in trying to get answers from auction sites and law enforcement officials. It is, for the most part, a one-way dialog as evidence is collected.
Do victims who band together actually help police efforts? Detective Burns of the New York Police Department Public Information Office said if victims are feeding law enforcement officials helpful information, it's "all well and good." But victims should not try to take actions on their own. According to Burns, victims should always contact their local police department when they think they have been defrauded on an online auction site.
Victims commonly feel extreme frustration that eBay does not have a way to warn other members about bad sellers other than the limited feedback method, where members have a mere 80 characters to sum up their complaints. New sites are popping up where victims can complain about trading partners, make their case, and vent their frustrations.
AuctionBlackList.com allows users to add auction fraudsters to a database. Buyers can search the database to see if sellers have a "record." Another site, eBayersThatSuck.com, encourages people to detail their bad experiences with auction trading partners.
Karen Christian continues to work on the TechSurplusVictims project, and she recently created a new site called LaptopScam.com to provide information about both Tech-Surplus and Electro Depot. A mother, an entrepreneur, a computer expert with a Masters degree; what makes Karen so determined to see the Tech-Surplus case to the end?
"I believe that situations present themselves at various points in our lives, and it is up to each of us to respond when our services are needed," Karen said. "If a person has a God-given skill or talent, it should be used for the betterment of mankind. We each have a social and moral responsibility to help one another, much like the heroes of 9/11."
eBay Auction Fraud Spawns Vigilantism Trend
By Ina Steiner AuctionBytes.com October 12, 2002
Vigilante: One who takes or advocates the taking of law enforcement into one's own hands
A new trend has emerged in online auctions: vigilantism. People are banding together to report auction fraud and are coordinating their efforts in contacting law enforcement officials.
Our story begins with Mark, the high bidder on an auction for a Toshiba Protege 2000 laptop computer on eBay. On August 10, 2002, Mark says he sent a cashier's check for $1,485 to eBay seller Tech-Surplus.
By September 1, after corresponding with the seller several times, Mark became concerned that he would never see his computer. He emailed other winning bidders to see if they had received their items from the seller. According to several buyers, it quickly became apparent that something was wrong ? no one had yet received their computers.
Karen Christian replied to Mark that evening and volunteered to create a Web site to publish information about the seller, whom they worried was operating in bad faith. Karen had also purchased a laptop computer from Tech-Surplus on August 15 and had not yet received it.
Karen, with Mark's encouragement, set up a site on GeoCities and later moved it to http://www.techsurplusvictim.com. The job of Vigilante was full-time for Karen as she built the site. Another victim, Cory, set up a mailing list on Yahoo Groups so victims could keep in touch with each other. The list quickly grew to 83 members.
To date, no one who came forward to the "TechSurplusVictim" group has received their computer from the seller, according to Karen. She and Cory received refund checks from the seller in what they believe was an effort to get them to stop their cyber-pursuit of him. The tactic did not work: Karen continues to spend about 5-6 hours a day keeping the Web site up to date, contacting law-enforcement officials, and talking to reporters.
Karen's TechSurplusVictim Web site gives voice to the indignation auction fraud victims feel and the need to take control back from auction fraudsters:
"We are a group of honest citizens who really wanted the laptops we bought and paid for and had expected to be delivered. Numerous auctions have been unilaterally cancelled. The total amount owed both of these groups is about $300,000. We're interested in stopping this kind of behavior as quickly as possible, recovering our money and informing others of the issues surrounding these transactions."
The TSV Cyber Team, as they call themselves, claim that eBay seller Tech-Surplus received money from at least 130 buyers between July 12 and September 4, 2002, and never sent product. While doing research and gathering evidence for their own case, they found another group of victims calling themselves ElectroDepotSucks. They had purchased laptops from eBay seller Electro Depot and also claimed that they paid for laptops and never received them. The two groups banded together and shared information, leading them to conclude that Tech-Surplus and Electro Depot may actually be one person operating in New York City.
Electro Depot victims had also reached out to one another and created their own Web site, http://www.electrodepotsucks.com. John Rowles said he won an eBay auction for a Sony laptop computer from Electro Depot on May 7, sent a check, and never received his laptop. Rowles said he was eventually promised a refund from the seller in exchange for taking down the ElectroDepotSucks site and leaving him alone. "Please reply to this email and confirm that upon receipt of your refund, you will immediately take down the site (within 24 hours) in question and take no further actions like these." Rowles said he got his refund, but only promised to take down the site if every victim was refunded. The site is still up.
Both Electro Depot and Tech-Surplus have been NARUed ("Not A Registered User) on eBay. This is eBay's designation for an account that has been suspended for any reason. Neither seller replied when contacted via email and telephone by AuctionBytes.
The TSV Cyber Team and ElectroDepotSucks groups are two of a growing number of victim groups trying to work together and with law enforcement officials to recover their funds and bring perpetrators to justice. Each group seems to take on its own character as they struggle to get information about what they should do.
Karen Christian takes a very proactive approach, and one gets the feeling she won't quit until she has seen justice done. Another victim's group took a different approach. "I don't really know that any one person was in charge," said Victor Montanez, who purchased a Bose DVD-based home entertainment system from "shakes955" on eBay in February. "We really all seemed to just email each other with new information. I think that it was really a joint effort by everyone to help each other."
"Shakes955" was the eBay user ID belonging to Neil Bansal, who was arrested on May 13, 2002, and charged with one count of 2nd degree Grand Larceny and one count of 1st degree Scheme to Defraud. Victor Montanez and other victims got refunds from Bansal after his arrest. They continue to keep in touch with each other, eager to hear what will happen to the man who caused them so much grief.
Victims feel a great frustration in trying to get answers from auction sites and law enforcement officials. It is, for the most part, a one-way dialog as evidence is collected.
Do victims who band together actually help police efforts? Detective Burns of the New York Police Department Public Information Office said if victims are feeding law enforcement officials helpful information, it's "all well and good." But victims should not try to take actions on their own. According to Burns, victims should always contact their local police department when they think they have been defrauded on an online auction site.
Victims commonly feel extreme frustration that eBay does not have a way to warn other members about bad sellers other than the limited feedback method, where members have a mere 80 characters to sum up their complaints. New sites are popping up where victims can complain about trading partners, make their case, and vent their frustrations.
AuctionBlackList.com allows users to add auction fraudsters to a database. Buyers can search the database to see if sellers have a "record." Another site, eBayersThatSuck.com, encourages people to detail their bad experiences with auction trading partners.
Karen Christian continues to work on the TechSurplusVictims project, and she recently created a new site called LaptopScam.com to provide information about both Tech-Surplus and Electro Depot. A mother, an entrepreneur, a computer expert with a Masters degree; what makes Karen so determined to see the Tech-Surplus case to the end?
"I believe that situations present themselves at various points in our lives, and it is up to each of us to respond when our services are needed," Karen said. "If a person has a God-given skill or talent, it should be used for the betterment of mankind. We each have a social and moral responsibility to help one another, much like the heroes of 9/11."
Friday, April 6, 2007
Comment on NovaScotiaBusinessJournal.com
Clearly something is amiss in Port Clyde, Municipality of Barrington, Nova Scotia. The comments posted here overwhelmingly question, if not outright refute, the claims C. Blinn has made in describing the properties she has sold in Barrington. Her comments about J. Harlow have also met with opposition.
The Building Inspector for the Municipality of Barrington says "they are selling lots that don't exist on street names that don't exist". The folks who have commented have pointed out the apparent misrepresentations between C. Blinns descriptions of everything from the names of towns, their sizes, their distances from other places, the condition of the land sold etc. etc. and their particular knowledge of the area. C. Blinn states "I did not know that Harlow and Gillespie were the people in charge of Shelburne County!".
This comment begs the question of when the elected officials of the Municipality of Barrington will weigh in on this matter. Upon viewing the Municipality of Barrington website it is clear to me that the general populace and the local officials both care for and cherish their home towns and the quality of life it affords them.
Both, I assume, also care deeply about the image the Municipality of Barrington depicts to the world. The growing and far reaching situation of eBay land sales in your municipality by Nova Scotia Land Sales, and possibly other internet companies, needs to be thoroughly researched, immediately, by Council and Committee Members as they have been absent from this situation thus far.
For clearly something is amiss in Port Clyde, Municipality of Barrington, Nova Scotia.
Posted 06/04/2007 at 10:32 pm
The Building Inspector for the Municipality of Barrington says "they are selling lots that don't exist on street names that don't exist". The folks who have commented have pointed out the apparent misrepresentations between C. Blinns descriptions of everything from the names of towns, their sizes, their distances from other places, the condition of the land sold etc. etc. and their particular knowledge of the area. C. Blinn states "I did not know that Harlow and Gillespie were the people in charge of Shelburne County!".
This comment begs the question of when the elected officials of the Municipality of Barrington will weigh in on this matter. Upon viewing the Municipality of Barrington website it is clear to me that the general populace and the local officials both care for and cherish their home towns and the quality of life it affords them.
Both, I assume, also care deeply about the image the Municipality of Barrington depicts to the world. The growing and far reaching situation of eBay land sales in your municipality by Nova Scotia Land Sales, and possibly other internet companies, needs to be thoroughly researched, immediately, by Council and Committee Members as they have been absent from this situation thus far.
For clearly something is amiss in Port Clyde, Municipality of Barrington, Nova Scotia.
Posted 06/04/2007 at 10:32 pm
Tuesday, April 3, 2007
Anonymous Says.....
This opinion was sent by Anonymous from California regarding the ongoing Nova Scotia Land Sales eBay lawsuits. The story thus far can be found on the links of this blog. As someone said "the issue has been smoking for some time and now seems to have burst into flames".Are there other lawsuits against eBay land sellers in other parts of the world that should be included on this blog?
It is, It isn't or It Could Be
Help me with this, will you? Does it make sense that either it is or it isn't when it comes to physical, and therefore concrete objects?
For instance, if one comments that a road exists on a property either it exists or it doesn't exist. Right? I realize we could argue what constitutes a road or even a dirt road, but it still exists or does not. A trail is not a road, a path is not a road. They are paths and trails. If you name the road and draw it on a map of the property and claim location by this thing you named, then you sure as hell mean that there is an identifying object that is visible to the eye, and to the sense of touch if you bend down to feel it. Main St. is Main St. and you can see it and walk on it (maybe) and if you fall down on it you know it. You could say "I fell down on Main St. yesterday". Everyone who is familiar with Main St. would then know where you fell down and might even ask "where on Main St.?". Simple enough.
How then can land sellers claim that there are 4 roads through a development, name them all and when others go to look for them the roads can't be found? Even the town inspector doesn't know anything about them. Anyway, the eBay land seller stands behind the fact that they exist.
Just to be fair, when describing something like the weather one could utilize some personal liberties. If you're aware that someone loves the snow and cold you could say, regarding a certain location, that even though the January average temperature is 20F and the January average snowfall is 12", that it's colder than 20F and snows more than 12" a lot of years in January. By the same token a warm weather person could be told it's warmer than 20F and snows less than 12" a lot of years in January. This is interpreting the facts to appeal to the listener and it's NOT LYING.
It is LYING when you say something exists and it does not exist. It appears that Internet land transactions are ripe with LIES, misrepresentations, and the deliberate act of leaving out crucial information. The electronic venue for land sales should be halted until it can be regulated properly. Are you listening eBay? Are you listening prospective land buyers?
I would enjoy hearing from those buyers and sellers who see no wrongs in the current system as it exists. The old saying caveat emptor just doesn't seem to fit.
For instance, if one comments that a road exists on a property either it exists or it doesn't exist. Right? I realize we could argue what constitutes a road or even a dirt road, but it still exists or does not. A trail is not a road, a path is not a road. They are paths and trails. If you name the road and draw it on a map of the property and claim location by this thing you named, then you sure as hell mean that there is an identifying object that is visible to the eye, and to the sense of touch if you bend down to feel it. Main St. is Main St. and you can see it and walk on it (maybe) and if you fall down on it you know it. You could say "I fell down on Main St. yesterday". Everyone who is familiar with Main St. would then know where you fell down and might even ask "where on Main St.?". Simple enough.
How then can land sellers claim that there are 4 roads through a development, name them all and when others go to look for them the roads can't be found? Even the town inspector doesn't know anything about them. Anyway, the eBay land seller stands behind the fact that they exist.
Just to be fair, when describing something like the weather one could utilize some personal liberties. If you're aware that someone loves the snow and cold you could say, regarding a certain location, that even though the January average temperature is 20F and the January average snowfall is 12", that it's colder than 20F and snows more than 12" a lot of years in January. By the same token a warm weather person could be told it's warmer than 20F and snows less than 12" a lot of years in January. This is interpreting the facts to appeal to the listener and it's NOT LYING.
It is LYING when you say something exists and it does not exist. It appears that Internet land transactions are ripe with LIES, misrepresentations, and the deliberate act of leaving out crucial information. The electronic venue for land sales should be halted until it can be regulated properly. Are you listening eBay? Are you listening prospective land buyers?
I would enjoy hearing from those buyers and sellers who see no wrongs in the current system as it exists. The old saying caveat emptor just doesn't seem to fit.
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